The Wizard Entrepreneur, Brock Bowen, is masterful at helping others attain the magical and powerful in their lives. Fueled by adventure and the desire to live a free and fulfilling life, Brock shares his journey in creating a world full of possibilities. Listen in as he shares his secrets to harnessing the mystical in every moment.

Hello everyone this is Tonya Dawn Recla, your Super Power Expert. I’ve got with me the coolest guy: the story of how we met, who he is in the world, and where he is in the world. He’s kind of like the “Where’s Waldo”: you have to check in with him from time to time and see what countries he’s in in that moment. He’s just amazing.

He shared with me one of the recent phrases that he adopted after someone knighted him the “Wizard Entrepreneur.” I think it’s absolutely brilliant. You can imagine those two words together. That’s a good summation for this gentleman. Please join me in welcoming Brock Bowen to the show.
Welcome Brock.

Good to be here. I always love our conversations, it makes such an impact in my world. I appreciate being here too. Amazing.

Thank you. And I appreciate you joining us.

So, I throw everybody into the mix and just ask them right off the bat, what are your Super Powers?

Boom! I love this question. It’s one of my favorite ones to ask people too. But I’ll get right into it. Empathy for sure. I can just feel things, and intuition. I can talk to people’s bodies and I can also talk to businesses.

My body can change. It’s like a chameleon kind of energy. Sometimes I’ll be hanging out with bodybuilders and my veins will pop out more in my body, so it actually changes around.

I can connect into the Dream Time, which is one of my favorite things. I connect into that dream time and start to share the dream time story of what I like to create. And then all of a sudden it occurs in my life.

Another one that seems to be interesting too I say I’ll see you soon to have her. Often 10 seconds or sometimes a little bit later people show up in my life. Just that that deep knowing of things, that’s what I love more and more.

Another one I like lot to be is a catalyst for other people to activate their Super Powers. I also like to activate money with people. I’ll actually do it where I’m speaking to one of my clients, they might be stressed out about money for instance, and then I’ve had people have multiple thousand dollars show up in their accounts. I’ve also had people while we’re on the phone, get a fun 50 or 100 dollars on the ground, which is interesting.

I also like to have the power of “how do we upgrade one another.” So as it goes to those elevated levels of consciousness, when I bless and upgrade people, that seems to be Super Power too. So, I know I jammed a few in there, but I love it. I always want to know what else I have access to. I want to know who else I can contribute to. How do we download the genius of the Einsteins and the Teslas and other people that can open up more gifts within ourselves.

What’s interesting is that all of those play off each other. It’s really one of the hardest things for people to wrap their minds around. There seems to be this a kind of precipice where prior to the precipice it’s like “what is my Super Power like?” or “what am I here to do?”

And then there’s the other side of the precipice where you want them all, and you can do them all, and you have access to everything. And it’s like, “where do you want to play?” “How do you want to play?” But that singular Super Power conversation seems to be what drives us through and motivates us and gets us over the humps, to do the work, to master the personal power, so that we can move into this space where you’re sitting right now: where it’s like “all of them, I do all of these things.”

So really gauge yourself, I’m talking to listeners here, in terms of when you’re hearing people talk like that, it really is possible. Truth changes based on where you’re sitting. So even if you’re in the stage you’re sitting in, and you’re still trying to figure out what your one Super Power is, That’s OK! That’s a very, very necessary part of the process. Every one of us was there at one point in time.
That’s the whole “Purpose and Mission” conversation: What are you here for? How are you special? Are you special?

That’s, ultimately, what the little person, or the little gremlins, inside of all of us is asking. It’s wanting the accolades that we matter. And then, when you’re clear that you matter, then you’re able to open up into this beautiful space where Brock is sitting. I appreciate you illustrating that for everyone.

It feels wonderful to actually share it. I know, and this might resonate with a lot of the people listening, where you knew as a kid you’re a little bit different. You knew as a young man you’re a little bit different. Often you might have been, I know for myself, I’ve been criticized. I’d work in jobs and I’d be doing, be walking around the office having the best time ever. I loved going off and giving people massages. I loved making people food. And when I looked at my statistics at the end of an eight-hour shift when I worked at a normal job, my statistics show that I was about 30 percent ahead, doing more work, more productivity than anyone else in the office. They all thought I was doing nothing because I was running around and doing it my way.

It’s interesting when we’re different.

I wanted to share that with people because if we do have some of these capacities, we’ve got to trust our natural frequency and flow. If we try and structure everything too much, all of a sudden, the way that we show up in the world, all of a sudden it collapses all that energy. We actually feel that we don’t have our Super Powers. It’s an interesting contemplation too.

I literally worked at a job many years ago, where at the end of my time there they said, “We love you Brock, we just need you to be a little less Brock.”

One of the reasons I love working with people is there are so many people in the world. People might not say it that implicitly or directly, but it’s there. “If you want to do your life you need to dress a particular way, speak a particular way, you need to change yourself so that you can be successful in the world.” Rather than going, “What are the ways I want to be? What’s my inner genius? What else can I activate within myself that actually is beautiful and can create the life I love?”

It’s an interesting time.

I love that you said that. It brings back so many memories for me. I could share a ton of them, getting the message of “being too much”, or “being too different”, or “being too this”, or “being too that.” It’s not surprising to me that so many people who traverse this journey end up as entrepreneurs. But that adds its own layer of what-not.

I love that you call yourself the “Wizard Entrepreneur” because it’s great to have all these gifts and the Super Powers! I spend the majority of my time asking people “what do you do with them?”
If you’re not using them in some way, if you’re not applying them to the world, if you’re not building systems. We need the people who are building the businesses and the systems. A lot of folks who do this work in this journey are really here to create innovative sustainable solutions for the world. Those require businesses as a vehicle to have that impact on the world.

So, it’s easier for the Woo-Woo kind of light worker community to turn their noses down upon business as being “the devil” in all these other things. But it’s a very necessary mechanism to have the impact that we want to have on the world. So, I love meeting people like you who have embraced both sides.

It’s fun to integrate it too. I’m always looking at with our Super Power abilities, or our spiritual gifts, whatever way we want to look at it, which is now science. All of the principles we talked about you can actually articulate it with science now, and then bring that into the business world. When we combine it, that’s when we start to see the Elon Musks of the world. When you see him as a young man, if you watch the old videos of him, he was so awkward. The people who initially thought he was weird, and now people almost worship him.

A lot of times we’re looking for the approval of other people before we actually go out and do what we really want. If we continue to do that, I cannot imagine that life would ever be fulfilling if we are always waiting for someone else’s approval, or to get all green lights before we initiate a project that we just know we have to do. Then it never happens.

That’s a really great commentary. At least for me, that was a heck of a journey. “Is it OK?” I talk with a lot of people about the fact that we have so many stories in our collective consciousness of how it’s not OK to go against the rules of the tribe, or it’s not OK to do your own thing or to be uniquely you because we have stories of people being crucified, of people being burned at the stake, of people being assassinated. We have all of these stories in our collective, of the people who dared to say something that was against the status quo. And look what happened to them. Even though in this lifetime, the majority of us live in existences where it’s perfectly safe, where we’ve had the opportunity to carve out that space for ourselves. We’re still battling all of those stories and we have to transmute them every time they come up in all those different layers of them. And that’s big work for a lot of us.

But we’re doing it.

I look at my daughter, and I look at some of these amazing beings in the world who are coming into it, or who have just been biding their time. We have folks in their 40s and 50s and 60s who feel like they’re a little late to the game, but I’m like, “You were just smart to wait for the rest of us to create this vibrational space so that you could just step into it.” Whether they’re chronologically of a particular age or not, there are many, many young beings on that particular journey who are looking at those of us who’ve been doing this journey to see if it’s OK and if it’s safe to be fully who they are. As soon as we say “Yes, absolutely! We’re going to hold that space for you.” They’re just going to erupt in the world in a really magical way.

And I love your daughter. I was on the phone with a mutual friend of ours, Rucel. We were doing a FaceTime or a Zoom and her daughter was in the background. She’s special.

Aw, thank you.

And even something you mentioned in one of the podcast lit me up. She said, “Mom you made me feel a particular way,” and you just corrected her on that at such a young age and articulated that back to her. “I feel this way not because of what you made me feel this way blah blah blah.” I think just through things like that from such a young age, getting specific, being particular with kids can make a big impact if we all do it. There will be a different world if we are all living in our power.

Beautiful.

I love that. I appreciate that feedback. She’s definitely been the one driving a lot of my own growth. Every step of the way looking at it, if I don’t push through this, if I don’t face that fear, if I don’t work through that, then what message am I sending? She’s right on my heels. There’s no lag time anymore. So how do I articulate it to her, or say “You need to do it this way,” or “You can be big,” or “You can be better,” if I am not willing to step into that space myself? Trust me when I say that. I’ve had my moments with that.

Absolutely. I know I’m going to be a dad on the fifth of May. Which I’m excited about. I would be lying if I said I wasn’t a bit scared of course. It’s a big change for me. I’m 38 years old, I’m having my first kid. I’ve often said that I didn’t want to have a child before. What was interesting for my participant ideas I said “thirty-eight years old” and at 38, my battery was on 55 percent, right now. Interesting how numbers we see magically line up.

Something that just popped into my mind to share with people, often the world wants us to put us into a particular thing. I know for myself at school, I was a natural young entrepreneur. At 17, I had two cars, a motorbike, had people working for me, I was also a school captain. We had to do 11 units and I did 15, and I still had more time. All of a sudden people started telling me what to do. Up until year 11 in high school, I topped the year, and quite easily. All of a sudden, when the pressure came on (I’ve been looking at this recently), I had a pressure to conform, a pressure to get a particular result. My last year 12, I was still doing well, I still got about a 90, but I’m one of those guys who probably get 100.

What’s interesting is often we want to apply our intelligence to what is considered successful in the world, be it a doctor, or dentist, or whatever it happens to be. Where I knew was on my path, I wanted to go in a different direction, but I couldn’t quite articulate it. That might relate to some people because at some point in life, you’re there. Where you’re like, “I don’t really know what want to do because the things that the world is offering me, doesn’t necessarily exist.” It’s sometimes why we become entrepreneurs and we start doing different things. We start working with clients in a different way because what we what we truly want to do doesn’t exist as a career right now. Which is exciting, but also scary when you don’t have that level of certainty that most people rely on.

I was contemplating just a second ago because your background is a spy. Which I thought was awesome and so exciting. When I was 17, I got recruited for the Australian Defense Force Academy. All their things, the leadership, the intelligence, the fitness, I was a 100 percent scholarship, everything. About a week before I went in, I had a funny feeling. You know, that intuitional gut sense, where I knew it was not for me. And who knows what, I would have been a different person. Of course, it’s worked out well for you, at the time I chose a different path. It’s interesting to contemplate these things in terms of our Super Powers. Naturally, military’s probably where we most often end up because nothing else really makes sense. Either extreme sports or military. How did you end up being in the CIA?

Interesting. Yeah, I wasn’t with the CIA, I worked with them. That delineation only really matters to those of us who are in that field. But after 9/11, I had my master’s degree, I was getting ready to go on for a Ph.D. in more the social sciences. I’ve always been interested with how people operate, why they operate, and everything else. 9/11 happened, and it really shook things. I ended up enlisting in the M y Army career was very short lived because I got very sick and ended up getting medically discharged. But an agency recruited me out of that process. In retrospect, it makes perfect sense of how aligned all of that was. But in the moment, in the midst of it, it made no sense whatsoever. I’m very clear that that those credentials and that experience are so I can say certain things now with that kind of authority behind me, having had that experience, so people hear things differently from me than they might from maybe somebody who pursued different paths and so on.

I’m glad you asked that question, though, because I knew that the whole 9/11 thing had an impact on me. But I wasn’t I wasn’t particularly patriotic or ethnocentric and in any form or fashion. What I’ve been hearing a lot lately, are the number of stories of people that it had a huge impact on, that literally shook people off of whatever path they were on. It’s a completely different trajectory. That’d be a fascinating study to do to see who took a completely different path immediately following that event. I think we’d be surprised. I mean, I’ve been surprised at just the number because I’ve asked to see them and that is why I’ve seen them. But I’m amazed how many people attribute that to a severe shift in. I didn’t know anyone in the towers, I didn’t know anyone who was directly impacted, it was just this overall feeling. Like a wake up, if you will.

I’m always fascinated. I can remember exactly where I was on 9/11. The building I was, I can see it clearly. You know, how you can have these particular hard and emotional plot points in time. Often, for a lot of us, we can remember that moment, but then if you ask where we were and what we had for dinner two nights ago, it takes us a little while to think about. It was definitely a huge thing. At the moment, we’ve seen tribes coming together in California recently, the gangs came together six or 12 months ago, and swapped colors. We were talking about collaboration a moment ago, and even at that moment with what’s going on at Standing Rock, seeing what’s happening there with people coming together, we’re starting to see it all around the world. And I do feel that globally, we are having a shift. Sometimes it takes these horrible insane things for there to be something fresh to come through. It’s an interesting one to contemplate.

I think so, too. Me, personally, I prefer to look at everything that way. I often hear myself saying that I view everything as being symbolic. To me that’s part of living in that abstract frequency, when you recognize that nothing outside yourself exists that doesn’t exist within you as well, and that you truly are just projecting out a version of reality that you’re creating. Then that’s when the real fun starts. My opinion is when you get into the abstract frequency where you’re intentionally creating and you’re playing with these things. In that space, there are pros and cons to everything, you don’t get to blame anyone for anything.

It’s easy to say, “Oh my gosh, the atrocities! Oh, my gosh, how horrible!” But even during our last election, people kept asking me how I feel about this, how you feel about that. And I watched these loving, light working beings get violent over a presidential election. I don’t remember an election ever feeling that personal to so many people. I stayed out of most conversations, but a couple that I got into, the perspective I shared in those moments was: We say we want change and we say we’re ready to see things transform, but what if that means losing a battle or two? Are you really willing to do what change requires? It’s easy to say the words. What happens when it hits close to home, or what happens when you seek identity through it? There’s many, many, many, many people who are not ready to live in the world that they claim they want to create. I know because I meet people on the precipice of that decision 24/7, all day long, every day. I would say maybe less than five percent actually willing step into that space.

Yeah. “I like it, as long as I can be comfortable.” “I like it, as long as I can keep on like that.” “I like it, as long as my relationship stays the same.” “I’d like that, as long as my bank balance goes up and never down.” “I like it, as long as it’s just the stability.” For things to change, it’s obvious. Like the caterpillar metaphor, when the caterpillar transforms into a butterfly, and so many different things of where we see this in nature. But then, when it occurs in our own life, we do want to hold on. I still see myself from time to time, where I almost get sad that a particular element of myself is going so that something new can open up. Now, I’ve learned to have more ease with it. It is tough for people. It doesn’t have to be. But it’d be interesting to see what happens in America.

I think that once you navigate through all of the dramas of it all, I certainly have my own opinions and feelings about it. At the same time, it’s challenging people to say, “Are you really, truly ready for change, even if it doesn’t look like what you thought it was going to look like?” All of the things that you just mentioned, for a lot of people, that’s the last remaining fear piece. We go through that climbing up our mountains and summiting our own mountains, and going through our own personal power journey thinking that we’re developing into something or someone. When you get to the top, you realize that that persona you worked so hard to create was just a pass-through into the next phase, and you have to be willing to give up that persona that you just created to move into the next space. That’s doing a really harsh number on a lot of folks lately.

Big time! Just holding onto that thing. I like to do it in my own life. This might make sense with some people listening, where I’ll change my hair, or change my clothes, or change different things, just for that ability to say, “What else can we change?” I’ve got friends, now, in their 60s that look younger than they did eight years ago. Why wouldn’t you choose to live this way?

I can also see it with some people where they say, “I have what I think is success.” I know for myself, I had that. This might relate to some business owners, more recently, had what looked like a successful business in Sydney. I had a great business partner, I had a team of four people, we had an investor that was happy to put an extra million dollars into our business. They could see how good we were in business and what we’re doing. I’d been over to America and was familiar with places like Whole Foods. And Erehwon, one of my favorite health food shops on the planet, this place called Erehwon, which is nowhere spelled backwards. We had investors about to put a million dollars into it, when I went, “This is not what I want to create anymore.” I could have done all the normal personal development stuff about getting into a peak state, writing down my goals, and articulating everything. But every part of me knew not to do that anymore. I’m so grateful that I did. But I’ve heard a lot of people stories, a lot of people that I connect with, where all of a sudden, they just knew that was not their path anymore.

One lady I met on a road trip, she now owns a 280-acre property right on the ocean. She drove in an economy van from the coastal area called Byron Bay in Australia, about 2-3000 km south. She saw the property, the property connected with her, and she just knew that that’s where she would create her life. After traveling the world, she looked at this property, 280-acres, without a way to purchase it. She’s been living there for 30 years.

Part of the beautiful thing about all of these intricacies is that everybody has those stories. People who are really truly living in this phase have traversed that arena. It’s trust, but it’s almost like trust is almost too passive. It’s just being so busy doing what you’re here to do and being who you’re here to be that you don’t you have time to not trust. You get the hit, you take action. You get the hit, you take action. You get the hit, you take action. I believe that is the process. When you sit and think about all the little things that we try to control and worry about anymore. I’ve gotten so sensitive to the fact that it just slaps you down so low in frequency. It’s like that doesn’t even exist in my world anymore. I can’t tell you how many times poor Justin, who’s agreed at least in our relationship, where I fly ahead, and he does like a sweep up. He helps build a foundation that we stand on, which allows me to be free to move very quickly. So, when we’re off, when our vibrations are just a little bit shifted, he’ll want to talk about something that’s going on in one of the businesses or something like that, and I’m looking at him cross-eyed like, “What does that even mean?” And he’s just like, “Oh forget it. You’re not even here.” I’m like, “That’s not even a concept I understand anymore.” God bless him, he just keeps journeying with me.

Super grateful! I’m just going to call in a “Justin” for myself now.

Wait, what?

I’m going to call in a “Justin” for myself, as well. Christie’s been up to summits in Australia. With some of the businesses, so fun. So brilliant to have.

Things we want to talk to people about this too. We started to talk about breaking through. I started talking about, if you are listening to this right now, and you’re having that sense of that feeling that something different is available to you right now. Just take that time that listen to that.

And then for us having this conversation right now, what I love now, is what do we want to create next? If we sit here, and we look at the Trumps, or the Standing Rock, things that are not working, for some of us it’s so important to stand in our power and be there. And if we do want to tear down the walls, what do we want to create next? A lot of people can say what they don’t want, but just it is a challenge to be able to articulate and clearly communicate what they do want.

I love the examples of guys like Steve Jobs. He was a big fan of Autobiography of a Yogi, and Yogananda. When you read Steve’s bio, he talks about how everything made sense in hindsight. He would go on and learn calligraphy. He’ll go into these different things. I’ve been playing with this more and more.

One of the things is when we are children, we follow our curiosity. When we’re children just, “Oh, that looks like fun!” In the next 10 seconds, what would I like to create now? What would I like to create now? Even though people might think that how we’re doing life doesn’t make sense, it doesn’t have to make sense to anyone else, but our own inner contemplation.

Absolutely. I am really grateful that you said that. One of the other things that I know you and I talked about before, and I’d love to have you share with the listeners, is this idea of tending to the details and the mundane, and what that looks like. Do you want to share your analogy with them?

Yeah for sure. We just started chatting about it before, mastering the mundane. So, the way I look at it is we’re talking about Super Powers. The way I’ve looked at it is we’re Supaman. He’s also a Clark Kent. It’s an interesting one, but I prefer talking about Batman. Does anyone listening like Batman?

Our crowd? Of course!

Boom! Batman is also Bruce Wayne. The thing I looked at, too, was when Batman’s looking after and tending to himself, making sure his thoughts are clear, making sure his health is vital, and just going out doing the things he needs to do to as a Super Hero. Saving the world doing what he’s got to do. His business always does really well. It’s almost as if he doesn’t have to think about it. It’s almost as if he’s just going out being a Super Hero, doing those things, and those things handle themselves. Things that I like, is that he has a great team around him. I’ll always say to people, “If you were living your dream, who would be on your team?” It’s very important to articulate that, not just in business, but also in life. You might need particular things. I know for myself, Nature is on my team. 60 Minutes a day, Nature, minimum, done. Massages, energy work, doing my daily practices, that’s all on my team.

Just thinking about the Batman metaphor, again, is he’s always provided for. He has the people around him. But for a lot of us, we don’t like doing the mundane. We like the manifestation. We like the speaking on stage, we like the spotlight stuff. But it’s also important for us to live in the real world. We don’t have to create reality the way that everyone else has. But it’s so fun to be elegant and precise, even in our taxes. Elegant and precise in such a way that our beautiful gifts that we have to share with the world, in the magic land, we can actually articulate it and communicate in such a way like an iPhone, using the Steve Jobs metaphor, that the world can receive.

I love it when we see different examples. Elon Musk is another one, where all of a sudden, these crazy ideas that he had he’s now bringing into actuality. Even in my own journey, I’ve been talking about me. We mentioned at the start of our conversation how I travel a lot. Almost like Where’s Waldo, I’m just popping up all over the world. It’s such a fun journey that I’ll just know where I need to be next. I have a preference that I would be in the right place at the right time, that people started asking me how I always had money. I don’t know if you can relate to this, people listening or to you, Tonya. People ask me, how do I always have money? And it doesn’t compute well. People try to make sense of it. Was he a drug dealer? Am I a self-made multimillionaire? How is it that I always have money? How am I able to travel the world so much? Some people want to know how everything showing up, rather than actually choosing what they want.

So, I came up with a metaphor that I call the Magic Carpet. Which is brilliant in my mind. My friend actually has a principle called Fulfilling, Love, Oneness, Awareness, Transcending. To use some spiritual terms FLOAT. I just found that people can relate to a magic carpet. How many people haven’t seen Aladdin? I mean most, of the listeners today have probably seen Aladdin, and they can relate to a magic carpet. In my internal dialogue, I talk about having a magic carpet. So, if I want to go somewhere, I’ll get there on my magic carpet. In my daily practice, I’m actually surfing like a cosmic being of light on a magic carpet. Which to me was an internal dialogue that I just started playing with, connecting to the dream, and having that story.

What was cool, recently, when I was in California, just after I met you I believe I wasn’t able to find a place in the National Park Peaks, and I’m used to always getting what I want. So, I just knew that something better was going to show up. Christie and I have an agreement that if we both want to stay somewhere that’s perfect, if one of us wants it and the other one doesn’t, we have to choose something different. So, we’re always looking how not to compromise, how we both can choose what we want, as an experiment. Now, the first place that I google in Carmel, up further up the coast almost up to Santa Cruz in California. It was Monterey or Carmel, I believe it was Carmel. There’s a Magic Carpet Lodge there. It’s just an ordinary looking motel, nothing fancy, but the name is what called me. So, I went to the Magic Carpet Lodge. It’s right next to Tesla, which is just a beautiful energy, that for whatever reason just so happens the next Tesla. We stay there the night. I woke up in the morning and I had a hit. I had a knowing, I had a sense I needed to be downstairs quickly. Christie, my partner, my fiancé, she goes, “Baby, we need to pack. We need to do all the mundane things now.” But the knowing that I had, I had to trust it.

We went downstairs straightaway, we ended up packing up the room later. And you guys can relate that to things in your life, where there’s a sense of urgency that it needs to be created now, that’s got to be prioritized over the mundane. But the mundane still has to be done. And so, I went downstairs because I had that hit, that awareness to get downstairs. I met a beautiful lady down there. She looked at what I was having for breakfast and it was different. I wasn’t eating the cereal, I was making a coffee and putting butter in it. I was just experiment with a few different things, and we struck up a conversation. Next thing, I’m walking up and down, and she took her jacket off. The next thing I’m wearing her jacket. I was like those on stage, but I was in the breakfast room. You know, when you’re like a kid, you’re just having the best time ever, you just beam the energy of who you are. You’re not really thinking. By the end of that conversation she goes, “Brock, here’s my card. I really want to get in contact with you. Our guys want to hear from you.” Within two weeks, I actually am being booked to talk to 12,000 entrepreneurs it actually worked out to be even bigger, for a group called Entrepreneurs Organization. It was brilliant to have that realization of a personal philosophy. If I had to go on research and do all these different things to organize that speaking gig, it might have taken a whole lot of time, but it took me 10 minutes. And that’s the thing that I noticed more or more, is the things that used to take… I’ve worked with businesses, that’s why they call me the Wizard Entrepreneur, where before where things normally take about a year to get done, somedays these things will get done in 15 minutes.

I love that you’re saying that! I keep telling people, it’s called frequency for a reason. It actually speeds up.

The funny thing, too, is this, when you’re a bit different, people might say you have good vibes. I feel like good vibes are like having a billion dollars in your bank account. They create experiences that money cannot buy. What’s fascinating is this, people might think you just have the good vibes, but you have absolute awareness of what is being experienced in each moment with precision. People want relate to that you’re a happy person, or you’ve got good vibes. All that intensity. Sometimes we back away from our intensity of presence because some people can’t receive it. But it’s fun when we actually just stand in our power, and enjoy that, and allow other people to stand in their power too. That’s what I consider leadership.

I love that. That’s also I’m so glad that you share that story. That goes right in alignment with our live in your power stories. Just going with it. Just taking action when you get those hits. We need to close out the interview, but I want to make sure that we talk to people about your program that you do. It’s quite fascinating. Will you share a little bit about it?

For sure. My program, online, is called M55. So I do an M55 Mastermind. It’s 55 days of Momentum, Magic, Miracles, Mindset. We keep coming up with more M’s for it. Essentially, it’s a program that completely transform your life in all areas. Brilliance. I feel that it’s not just what I’ve learned, it’s just I know what to do next in terms of the program. It was initially 90 days, and then one day I was driving along, and I got a hit, a sense that it needed to be called M55. There’s actually 56 days, and eight weeks, so M55 plus one day. All of a sudden I went, “Cool, it’s gotta be called this.” So, I just got that knowing and put it together. Turns out five means happy. There’s 55 minutes sacred manifestation ritual. When you look at 5-5-5, there’s a particular energy and frequency to it. It’s fascinating how these things come through.

Everyone that I work with, it’s essentially, how do we activate the people who are world class at what they do, but the world doesn’t know them yet? So, they show up in their frequency even more. I’ve got particular principles for that that I guide people through, so that rather than them be able to have this experience when they work with me, they have it for themselves, and they can continue on and share it with more people. I always have this: one for themselves, two for the community, three for humanity. As we activate more people and more business leaders, it’s brilliant. So now, I’ve just put together next year’s program of M55. It’s actually 55 days, we follow up with a monthly call for four months, and it includes a retreat. I just did my first retreat over the weekend, it was brilliant. I know you guys are about to do a retreat soon. I love how you just do and you how you just know. And you’re also responding to what wants to be created. It’s interesting.

Thank you. Yeah. It feels good. We parent the exact same way, so we have a little bit of practice with that at this point. I’d imagine you’ll take some of that into your parenting, as well, is the idea of the unfoldment. When you allow for that it’s really the most natural place to exist. OK well, we need to run. I know people want to know more about you. Where can we send them?

Yeah for sure. BrockBowen.com, you can find me there. You guys are welcome to add me off Brock Bowen on Facebook. I also have another moniker that I use for myself, the Lifetarion. The reason I came up with the Lifetarian is this. Sometimes we identify ourselves with our business card, or our job, or our career, or our bank balance, or whatever we happen to have being experienced in that moment. When I looked at the the Leonardo da Vinci’s, when I looked at the different characters from the past, or that now they’re doing wonderful things in the world, they just describe themselves, generally, as a human being, rather than this is X what I do in the world, and it kind of limits us. So when I came up with Lifetarian, it essentially means I can do whatever I want, when I want, and ultimately create the life that’s the greatest possible for me, to help as many people as possible in this lifetime. And the more that I contemplate that it seemed brilliant just set me free in some way. So sometimes those little things how would contemplate our internal dialogue, makes it so much easier to shift.

If you’re in a business right now and you don’t love it, sometimes you can repurpose that business and experience in a different way, a deeper, more fulfilling way. Sometimes if you’re in a career right now that you don’t love you can repurpose it or you can do something different. I don’t think it is for everyone just to leave a job today. I know that’s the way that I create, I know that’s the way that you create. It’s important to go, how as leaders in this moment, do we really make the biggest impact possible so that more people can live the way that they truly love.

I love that.

It’s fun too. Now, in terms of M55 and working with business leaders, that’s what I love. Business leaders already got great revenue in the business, a lot of the guys now are between 1 and 15 million dollars in their business. Once they apply these principles, everything changes. All of a sudden, I don’t want to use that word anymore. “All of a sudden.” Let’s just delete it right. You can get rid of that. They know that someone in the team doesn’t work anymore, and someone leaves, and then someone walks in the next day. The resources, the next projects are already there. Things show up.

The challenge is creating that space before you have something that fills it.

Absolutely.

It’s such a delight to reconnecting with you, and I just thank you for sharing some of your so that with our audience and our listeners. Thank you.

I appreciate you too. I love what you guys are doing.

We’ll definitely have you back, and we’ll pick a topic, and we’ll tackle it. How’s that sound?

Sounds good. I’m going to say one final comment for everyone listening. If you guys have enjoyed listening to our conversation with Tonya and I today, what I want you to do right now, is to just to test this on this stuff. Just to test this stuff actually works. You might be here and going “that’s nice for you but blah blah blah.” So, I want you guys to have an experience. I want you to, right now, to connect with us, and feel my heart and feel Tonya’s heart. Receive it into your world and just go, “Brocky, Tonya, I see you guys soon.” I don’t know if you I’m going to say that, I’ll see you soon. And I just know that it’s just going to show up in that experience.

I love that. Yes, I will see soon. And that’s so fantastic. Thank you so much and I appreciate you.

It’s a pleasure. Appreciate being on the show.

And to all of you out there, as always, we appreciate your loyalty. And until next time, you know the drill, go out into the world, uncover your Super Powers, and change the world. Take care everyone